Showing posts with label Sherman Tanks. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Sherman Tanks. Show all posts
Best Tank
Sherman TanksThe best tank cannot be defined one vs the other. Tanks are one part of a military system and the best for the UK may not be the best for the USSR or USA or Germany. The US Army tank doctrine of WWII was that tanks support the infantry by providing fire support and act as cavalry performing the mission of deep penetration and exploitation. Tanks were not intended to fight other tanks, tank destroyers had large armor piercing guns to stop enemy tanks.
Ground forces were supported by Air Forces, and a huge maintenance train that would keep tanks running and bring damaged tanks back into service quickly. The industrial capacity of the US was intended to produce vast numbers of tanks to outnumber the enemy, that's why you ended up with cast and welded version and
even diesel and the M4A4 with a half dozen Chrysler engines on a single shaft; to maximize production numbers.
The shipping capacity of the US merchant marine needed to bring the tanks from the US to the battle area. One major concern was that tanks over 30 tons were too heavy to ship and off load easily in both beach assault and at many harbors. The Sherman was also a gradual evolution that started with the M2 light tanks first made in 1935 and going on to the M2 medium, M3 medium series and finally the Shermans.
That meant that by 1942 the US had over 6 years to perfect their medium tank design. Compare that to the Panther that was designed and built in less than two years from inception to combat debut. US tanks were designed for highly trained crews with ease of maintenance and a reliable engine and suspension. The suspension changed as it got heavier in response to more need for larger guns, more ammo storage and more armor. The Sherman was similar in many ways to the Panzer IV, long development time, many variations produced, kept in production throughout the war, and able to be upgraded many times. Both served with many allied nations and both served long after the war with different countries.
Everything in tanks is a trade off between two choices or more. Interleaved suspensions, like the Panther, provide a very smooth ride for better sighting and better shooting on the move and greater crew comfort.
The trade off is they are more difficult to repair if an inside road wheel gets damaged by a mine or a hit. On the other hand, they also provide a certain amount of armor protection from side hits to the lower hull,
and allow a much wider track to be used for lower ground pressure for better mobility. On soft terrain it's not the weight that matters, it's the ground pressure. A wide track on a heavy vehicle can provide a
low ground pressure compared to a light tank with a narrow tracks. That's why Shermans had to have duck bills put on their tracks and Tiger I and Panther did not need them.
The T-34 was designed for mass production and the Soviets concentrated almost completely on making tanks and artillery. They got most of their trucks and halftracks from the US and UK. Even that was not
enough, that's why you see so many Soviet troops riding on tanks, they don't have trucks to ride in or halftracks.
T-34 did not have a turret basket, a radio or a fire wall between the crew and engine compartment. It was noisy, smelly, crudely made and lacked almost any crew comfort items. They were intended to be nearly
disposable tanks with disposable crews. Quantity has it's own quality. Take a company of 10 T-34 and destroy one German tank and all three T-34s are destroyed and that's good enough. The Soviets made 60,000 T-34 and the Germans made 6,000 Panthers. At 10 to 1 odds the Germans lose.
In the US Army we often hear about the German says "you always have 11 tanks. We destroy ten American tanks, but you always have an 11th tank to get us."
The reality was more like the Germans hit two American tanks, the Americans go to ground and call in 48 tubes of artillery and four P-47's in ground attack mode and track the German tank.
They can't recover it because the American tanks move up quickly and capture the knocked out German vehicle. The Americans do that once in the morning and once in the afternoon for a week and
their whole tank company is wiped out. But the Germans have lost a company too, but the Americans have already replaced the company and the Germans can't. The US Army had about about 18,000 Sherman tanks and the Germans had about 9,000 Panzer IV. At two to one odds the Germans lose.
Tank Videos
Sherman TanksSome actual military film, test evaluations, of various tanks on YouTube.
Amazing what you can find on YouTube.
These are helpful for checking out the storage used on the vehicles.
PANTHER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0ELzrsV_zM&feature=related
TIGER 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1WcGSSmUU&feature=related
JAPANESE Type 95
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLKwq8JKIaw&NR=1
FRENCH Renault FT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIDg_ng-Qi0&feature=related
CHURCHILL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhw2UvnMsjg&feature=related
LEE/GRANT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFUQ5l1UhH0&feature=related
VARIOUS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKvV89TaqbE
STURMTIGER in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb-oXaaWqXk&NR=1
PANTHER Vs. LEE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z88mupP4mWI&feature=related
Amazing what you can find on YouTube.
These are helpful for checking out the storage used on the vehicles.
PANTHER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0ELzrsV_zM&feature=related
TIGER 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1WcGSSmUU&feature=related
JAPANESE Type 95
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLKwq8JKIaw&NR=1
FRENCH Renault FT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIDg_ng-Qi0&feature=related
CHURCHILL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhw2UvnMsjg&feature=related
LEE/GRANT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFUQ5l1UhH0&feature=related
VARIOUS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKvV89TaqbE
STURMTIGER in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb-oXaaWqXk&NR=1
PANTHER Vs. LEE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z88mupP4mWI&feature=related
Tank Museum
Sherman Tanks
I looked it up in my Hunnicutt Stuart A History of the American Light Tank book and the closest thing I could find to this tank is the Combat Car M2. The US Cavalry had Combat Cars in the 1930s because Congress forbade them to have tanks; tanks were for Infantry support. The suspension is not correct, however, the US was experimenting with various types of suspensions at that time, and I suspect this is one of those experiments. This tank was used in the Bob Home movie, "Caught in the Draft." If anyone has any further data on this tank, post it in the comments.



A nice M60A1, one of my favorite tanks.

A late production M48 series tank. Note the tank shell on the fender and how large the cupola is on top of the turret.
This is the last of the tank museum photos. As you can see, I could have easily spent a couple days there and taken a few thousand photos. They had great vehicles, most look like they run, and since they rent tanks for movies, I suspect some of them do run!
Tank Museum
Sherman Tanks
A late production Sherman tank. One of my favorites. Now both Paul Heiser and Bill Jr Models make these in HO. That's going to get expensive for me.


They had a number of various other civilian type trucks that had been used by the military.

A mid / late war Sherman tank.
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1918 N. Rosemead Blvd.
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Telephone: (626) 442-1776
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Check them out and send them a few bucks, if you have a couple extras.
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This WWII artillery served until just recently. They had either an 8 inch or 155 mm gun barrel. I saw one a few years ago being used to test liquid propellant explosive, probably at Yuma testing grounds. Same everything, but the barrel had several more bands around it and the loading was automatic from some mechanism at the breech.

The other end of the inventory, the WWII US Army 37mm ATG. Note the huge 155 barrel over it and how small it is in comparison to the wheels of the large howitzer.

Can you guess what this is? One of the most important guns of WWII that Roco never made. I have to use the Airfix one in 1/76th scale.

The 40mm Bofors guns were used by armies and navies on both sides of WWII! This gun looks like it was in service this morning, it is in perfect shape.

A humble US Navy Jeep, driving out of a landing craft. By switching service you can make some interesting vehicles out of existing kits. Naturally the Jeep was used by the Army, Navy and Marines in WWII. The M113 APC was used by the Army, of course, but also NASA! I have also seen an M60 series tank in US Air Force markings. What did you do in the Air Force? I was a tanker! You don't hear that too often.
Museum Stuff
Sherman Tanks
The M578, a tank tow truck. Roco made the earlier version and then later this version. These were used to tow tracked vehicles and it could use it's crane to lift out a tank engine.

The US 5 ton truck. The breather on the fender and the exhaust pipe on the back of the cab were made as accessory parts by Roco to upgrade their older model.
Museum Pieces
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A couple slightly different M7 105 self propelled guns.

A US 1 1/2 ton truck. Many of them survived the Second World War by not being shipped overseas. They were almost the same size as the deuce and a half, so they stayed home while big brother fought the in the war.

The massive 155 mm SPG on the late war Sherman chassis.


The post war replacement for the M7 series. It was realized after the war that a light tank chassis could carry the 105mm howitzer. Of course, the late war WWII light tanks were much larger than the early war Stuarts.
A couple tired old relics of the Cold War era. While they may be obsolete, they can still be dangerous when properly employed. The larger one is an M53 155 SPG. The other one is a former O-3 MI USAR.

Guns and Boats
Sherman Tanks
I love seeing real versions of models that I have in HO scale. In some ways this museum is like the Roco Minitanks / Paul Heiser Museum. There are some notable exceptions. This US Army 75mm Mountain Howitzer is one of them. This little gun was used before WWII and until a few years afterwards. It was towed by Jeeps, carried by mules when broken down into bits, and also towed by horses. It could be broken down into small parts and had both rubber tires or wooden spoked wheels.
Take note of the panels that gun is sitting on. It is Marston Matting. Perforated Steel Planking, PSP. It could be linked together to make a muddy field into an airfield in a few hours.
A Clean Army Is Important
Sherman Tanks
Here is one of those items you don't often see in the history books, but it is an essential war fighting device. It is a tactical clothing washer and dryer. In war uniforms get dirty and have to be cleaned, just like in peacetime. These would be found in service & support units and medical units.
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